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Old 01-23-2008, 06:23 PM   #401 (permalink)
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He could if he wanted to

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But the honest act of loving is what would matter.
Right. Hence, God making allowances for limited ability and looking to sincerity of intent.



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Jesus' "love your neighbor as yourself" only works when the "as yourself" part is adhered to. You can't expect me or anyone else to welcome Mexicans as a whole with open arms when they are illegally crossing the border and working in my birth-country tax-free while I can not. Jesus' teachings only truly work when everyone is folloiwng them.
So the Samaritan would have been justified in ignoring the man left for dead because the man was clearly in no position to return the favor should the Samaritan need help?
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Old 01-23-2008, 06:39 PM   #402 (permalink)
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You seem to insist on a literal reading of a story which was never intended to be taken literally. The Genesis story is a metaphor for mankind's fall from innocence into sin.
Then why are women still being punished by being held responsible, for being kicked out of the garden of eden?

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Read some books about ancient Judean writers--Who Wrote the Bible is a good start. It is sad the number of faithful who fall away from their faith because of (usually fundamentalist) misunderstandings of Scriptural context.
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Old 01-23-2008, 07:43 PM   #403 (permalink)
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Actually it was me who asked: "Is God just another Superman"? in my first post this evening. I gotta take the heat for THAT.
I missed your post, so I'll give my answer here and now:

Assuming the existence of both in their own contexts, The main difference between God and Superman isn't so much the difference in super-human power, but rather in results. in the comics, Superman is actually out there saving lives and being visible and proactive. God isn't (except in the ancient testament, but then judging by his actions, he seems more like a tyrant villain than a hero).
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Old 01-23-2008, 08:43 PM   #404 (permalink)
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Oh mercy Gaia. You are in the middle of these two. Talk about twisted sisters. These two guys (well I wont call them self worshippers cause it bothers you) have a confused world view.
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Oh mercy Gaia. You are in the middle of these two. Talk about twisted sisters. These two guys (well I wont call them self worshippers cause it bothers you) have a confused world view.
Says they guy that vilifies a woman who kills five but idolizes a man who orders the deaths of thousands.
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Old 01-23-2008, 08:58 PM   #406 (permalink)
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I was under the impression scientists do not like to draw conclusions because doing so limits what they learn, so to speak.
True, to a point, but when they do draw conclusions, they are pretty sure of them. Of course with science, it is never the end of the story. You can always look farther into any subject, and continue to find more about it, infinitely more, I presume. Infinity everywhere you look, from the micro to the macro. If there is a God, I would not presume, as some do, that he is separate from nature. Perhaps we've got a self-making clock here...
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Says they guy that vilifies a woman who kills five but idolizes a man who orders the deaths of thousands.
The USA authorized that war. And you probably supported it at the time too. Almost all americans did. Your hands are dirty too.
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The USA authorized that war. And you probably supported it at the time too. Almost all americans did. Your hands are dirty too.
Nope. I never support war unless we are attacked first. And then, only against the ones who attacked us rather than, say, people who are ethnically similar to our attackers. I know it doesn't matter to you and W if our servicemen slaughter innocents so long as people think you've got a man-sized dick, but I think it's kind of important to use our ammo on actual enemies.
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I missed your post, so I'll give my answer here and now:

Assuming the existence of both in their own contexts, The main difference between God and Superman isn't so much the difference in super-human power, but rather in results. in the comics, Superman is actually out there saving lives and being visible and proactive. God isn't (except in the ancient testament, but then judging by his actions, he seems more like a tyrant villain than a hero).
Makes alot of sense. Superman actually cares about people and physically works to help them out, not wanting or needing
recognition, reward or worship, whereas God uses the Carrot and Stick approach, and doesn't really care about people, even if they crawl around on their knees 24/7 to placate him. And for what reason? The "original" "Sin"? Eve. All her fault. She is the Temptress. She is the one who led Adam astray. (apparently, he had no mind of his own) She listened to the Serpent (which btw in many ancient religions/beliefs, is the symbol of wisdom) and because of Eve plucking this Fruit, and coercing Adam into taking a bite, women have been subjugated and reduced to the part of Slaves for too long. The Christian Religion demands of women to bow down to and obey their Husbands. So does Islam. And I say fuck that! I am no Man's Slave!

Any Jewish People in here? Can I be Jewish? They seem to be the only Monotheists who treat their women with respect.
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A Christian says the bible is the word of god until you find an inconsistency. Then it's a metaphor.
Ergo the bible is whatever they say it is.
Think about playing a ball game where the rule book is subject to interpretation by all the team members, the refs, the audience. It's why they are so fucked up in the head. They don't even know what they believe themselves.
But they will force you to agree with them if possible. The Christian Taliban is just as close as a Muslim one. They just need to get the power to enforce their ridiculous 'laws' on everybody.
There may or may not be a god but if there is he's almost surely nothing like what Eman and his fellows think he's like.
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