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Old 01-25-2008, 03:57 PM   #121 (permalink)
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I spoke about energy, environment and asthma. Gave a keynote speech and answered questions on a panel with a doctor and government official.
I understand athma is way up and may be linked to polutants. What's your opinion on that?
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Old 01-25-2008, 04:02 PM   #122 (permalink)
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I understand athma is way up and may be linked to polutants. What's your opinion on that?
I'll weigh in. Asthma is an American disease, we get it WAY more times than anywhere else.
Polutants are global, overall.
I read an article blaming our impulsive sanitary lives: Sealed houses, central H/A, lack of pets, lack of farm animals, video games as opposed to going outside, and lack of dirt. As newborns, our immune systems don't get the proper workout.
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Old 01-25-2008, 04:07 PM   #123 (permalink)
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I'll weigh in. Asthma is an American disease, we get it WAY more times than anywhere else.
Polutants are global, overall.
I read an article blaming our impulsive sanitary lives: Sealed houses, central H/A, lack of pets, lack of farm animals, video games as opposed to going outside, and lack of dirt. As newborns, our immune systems don't get the proper workout.
Interesting. I know a doctor with a very similar view. He says the best thing you can do for babies is to get a big dog... for exposure to pathogens!
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Old 01-25-2008, 07:32 PM   #124 (permalink)
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excellent post. i support women's rights. i support the right for them to use their heads. condoms are very cheap. you can get them for free even. it takes 10 seconds to put one on. there is no excuse for abortion, besides rape and danger to the mother. even then, i am not totally in agreement
Thank you, Chris.

Many liberals use women's rights as a knee-jerk defense, forgetting the vast number of irresponsible females who have abortions as birth control. Those rights should be synonymous with privileges, not some sort of endless, automatic freebie. Of the millions of abortions which are performed no one can say that those are mostly rape or health-issue abortions.

Abortion is used as birth control primarily, and it is sick. It is barbaric. And it is equally barbaric, sick, and flat-out fucking dumb when people start talking about parasitic scenarios and a fetus not being human life. What the fuck else is it? If that potential for life is snuffed out, life itself has been snuffed out. That kind of liberal-minded logic is a comfortable and conveinent way to divorce oneself from admitting their supporting of the murdering of the smallest of human beings.
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Old 01-25-2008, 07:35 PM   #125 (permalink)
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Thank God you arent in charge.
No shit. You took the words right out of my mouth. Support for baby killing is OK, but so is becomming Big Brother in the lives of people who want kids? Wha?
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Old 01-25-2008, 07:42 PM   #126 (permalink)
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Wow, judgmental much? I suppose you aren't aware that many people actually do use protection but end up pregnant anyway? Everyone who engages in sexual activity is not a selfish whore.
I didn't say that. Boy the reading programs must really suck up there.

But if a couple fucks without protection and the woman winds up pregnant, a concept called responsibility should (but rarely does) come into play. Sex has big consequences. It isn't just recreational rooting around. If people aren't ready to accept those consequences that is their problem.

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How exactly is that your business?
My tax dollars shouldn't pay for abortions. Besides, this country is based on moral principles, and irresponsible assholes shouldn't get to skirt by them.

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Not much of a fan of freedom, are ya?
Nope, not the freedom for people to kill children.

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Who decides the definition of "morally corrupt?" You?
More moral relativism. Common sense decides. The American people vote and decide.
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Old 01-25-2008, 08:04 PM   #127 (permalink)
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No shit. You took the words right out of my mouth. Support for baby killing is OK, but so is becomming Big Brother in the lives of people who want kids? Wha?
Some weird stuff he was promoting.
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Old 01-25-2008, 11:57 PM   #128 (permalink)
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If only Leisure could have been prevented. I dont support abortion under any circumstance except quite possibly this one instance.
You've always been big on saying that life is precious as long as you get to pick and choose which life is precious, so this comment is not surprising. It should interest you to know that my mother desperately wanted to get away from my violent father. And when she discovered that she was pregnant, she knew that meant years more abuse. Had abortions been easier to get in those days, I would not have been born. Maybe you should support abortion... Because I'd imagine the future will probably have more doubters than believers and this is especially true if doubters are forced to carry children to term that they do not want.
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Old 01-26-2008, 12:02 AM   #129 (permalink)
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Some weird stuff he was promoting.
Are you suggesting that parenting has less impact than driving? You bring a child into the world, that child does not exist in a vacuum. Since it impacts the village, should the village have a say?
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Thank you, Chris.

Many liberals use women's rights as a knee-jerk defense, forgetting the vast number of irresponsible females who have abortions as birth control. Those rights should be synonymous with privileges, not some sort of endless, automatic freebie.
If they aren't an absolute given, not to be restr5icted without due process, then they aren't rights.
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Of the millions of abortions which are performed no one can say that those are mostly rape or health-issue abortions.
Seeing as pregnancy always impacts the mother's health and puts her at risk every single time, any abortion can be regarded as a health-issue abortion.
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