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Old 01-27-2008, 07:16 PM   #11 (permalink)
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I think it would certainly make peole wonder about such religions as Mormonism.
I hope by religions, you mean obvious-money-making-schemes.
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Old 01-27-2008, 07:22 PM   #12 (permalink)
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I hope by religions, you mean obvious-money-making-schemes.
Well, quite frankly.......yes.
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I think it would certainly make peole wonder about such religions as Mormonism.
That'll be one sect of Christianity that will sharply degrade into an isolationist extremism as a form of mass denial/hysteria. The collective psyche of mormons is just too fragile for that sort of thing. Those individuals who're able to cope will simply shirk off the sect and either turn to another or given up religion in general.
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Actually if they proved beyond a doubt that Jesus was just a human being and died as one I think Christianity will still survive, albeit greatly transformed. It'd start becoming more akin to Gnostic Christianity or Buddhism whereby Jesus' teachings become more important and Jesus himself not so much an idol of worship.

Or Jesus could go by way of the Prophet Muhammad, and his followers could become similarily militant. People are strange. And become dangerous, when their firmly implanted Ideologies are threatened, exposed as falsehoods, or debunked.
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Or Jesus could go by way of the Prophet Muhammad, and his followers could become similarily militant.
Become...? I'd argue many of them are already there. The only barrier left would be a breakdown of law and order allowing them to express their militarism.

Althgouh, I highly doubt the status of Muhammad within Islam contributed to militarism in any way. The brutality of the crusades and colonialism did that.

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Yes, that's the upheaval period. But after which those who remained moderate will be in the ideal position to decide what the religion will become to the rest of the world.
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Every church ever built, is in direct opposition to Jesus' demonstrated beliefs. So are every ritual, and collection plate.

The discovery of his corpse will have little, if any, impact on business as usual.
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Become...? I'd argue many of them are already there. The only barrier left would be a breakdown of law and order allowing them to express their militarism.

Althgouh, I highly doubt the status of Muhammad within Islam contributed to militarism in any way. The brutality of the crusades and colonialism did that.



Yes, that's the upheaval period. But after which those who remained moderate will be in the ideal position to decide what the religion will become to the rest of the world.
True about the Crusades and all. But they are REALLY touchy about the Prophet. Remember those pictures published of him in (i forget what) Newspaper. Made all hell break loose.

I was thinking about the (mostly christian) militias out there in the woods, training military style, to take America back and turn it strictly christian and white only. I saw a show about them on the History Channel. Kinda scared me. Alot.
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Actually if they proved beyond a doubt that Jesus was just a human being and died as one I think Christianity will still survive, albeit greatly transformed. It'd start becoming more akin to Gnostic Christianity or Buddhism whereby Jesus' teachings become more important and Jesus himself not so much an idol of worship.
I don't think it would make a bit of difference to Christian Conservatives. They reject real evidence whenever it calls their belief into question. Think evolution.

However, moderates and open minded people would benifit from such a discovery, I think.

This is cool research, IMO
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Every church ever built, is in direct opposition to Jesus' demonstrated beliefs. So are every ritual, and collection plate.

The discovery of his corpse will have little, if any, impact on business as usual.
Churches are the root of all evil when it comes to true belief. I believe Jesus preached that services and prayer is to be done in the privacy of people's homes.
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True about the Crusades and all. But they are REALLY touchy about the Prophet. Remember those pictures published of him in (i forget what) Newspaper. Made all hell break loose.

I was thinking about the (mostly christian) militias out there in the woods, training military style, to take America back and turn it strictly christian and white only. I saw a show about them on the History Channel. Kinda scared me. Alot.
I understand the logic of Muslims to a degree. Mohammad feared being turned into an idol the way Jesus was, and asked his followers neither to paint his picture nor mark his grave. The being that the message was vastly more important than the messenger, which I agree with.

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I don't think it would make a bit of difference to Christian Conservatives. They reject real evidence whenever it calls their belief into question. Think evolution.
True, but over intervening centuries they'd drift further into the fringes until they were seen as obscure cults in their isolated compounds out in the middle of nowhere.

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However, moderates and open minded people would benifit from such a discovery, I think.

This is cool research, IMO
I honestly think there's potential for a great transformational period in all religions starting with Christianity. In one of my science fiction novels I depict the 24th century theology of Zen Catholicism wherein a merger with Zen Buddhism leads to a global change and reformation in both religions.
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