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Old 02-04-2008, 10:51 AM   #1 (permalink)
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The Religion of Peace.

Malaysian airport customs seize Bibles - Asia-Pacific - MSNBC.com

Oh, I can dig up tons of articles to show what assholes Muslims are... but this is the most recent one.

I don't really know the religious leanings of the people on this board, but over on the HBO board, I swear everyone absolutely REFUSED to criticize Islam.
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Old 02-04-2008, 11:29 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Malaysian airport customs seize Bibles - Asia-Pacific - MSNBC.com

Oh, I can dig up tons of articles to show what assholes Muslims are... but this is the most recent one.

I don't really know the religious leanings of the people on this board, but over on the HBO board, I swear everyone absolutely REFUSED to criticize Islam.
I think you will find many here who will not refuse to criticise any religion. Currently, Muslims are the most intolerant on Earth, followed by Christianity in a distant second.
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Currently, Muslims are the most intolerant on Earth, followed by Christianity in a distant second.
Yup. That doesn't stop them from being the perpetual victim.
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I would be happy to criticize Islam.. But it was not Mohamed acting an ass in your example.........

Many of these Islamic states.... INcluding our friends in arabia have restrictions......

Good example is opiumstan where not long ago a man was sentenced to death for converting to Christianity......... & these are the ppl we liberated from the wackO's????????

This country were Americans & others have died for their freedumb & this is what you get...........>>>>>

Blasphemy......... Crimes against Islam......... These are the good guys here..........

Afghan journalist's death sentence 'political'

Sayed Parwez Kaambakhsh's real offence may have been to have a brother whose frank reporting has exposd abuses in northern Afghanistan. From IWPR.

By Hafizullah Gardesh in Kabul for IWPR (04/02/08)

The roar of international protest has increased over the past week since a court in northern Afghanistan handed down the death sentence to Sayed Parwez Kaambakhsh, a young journalism student convicted of blasphemy.

In Afghanistan, meanwhile, analysts and media rights advocates say the harsh sentence was delivered at the behest of powerful local figures, as an indirect form of retribution against Kaambakhsh's brother, Sayed Yaqub Ibrahimi, a reporter who has written extensively on human rights abuses in the north.

Sentence was passed at a summary hearing held by the lower court for Balkh region on 22 January, at which Kaambakhsh was offered no chance to speak, and had no legal representation. (See Afghan Reporter Sentenced to Death for Blasphemy, ARR No. 280, 22-Jan-08.)

Kaambakhsh denies committing the offence of blasphemy and totally rejects the allegations that led to his detention in October. He is accused of downloading an article from the internet which reportedly contained a critical commentary on the Koran. The piece was circulated at Balkh University, and attributed to Kaambakhsh.

The authorities claim they have a signed confession which forms the basis for the death sentence.

The young reporter told IWPR that he was coerced by the National Directorate of Security, NDS, into admitting his guilt.

"I was held in a small room which was very dirty," he told IWPR. "I was held in that room for eight days, and the security guys were constantly coming to see me. They interrogated me several times a day, and told me they were going to hang me. They told me to prepare myself for death.

"I had no contact with my family, and I was under a lot of psychological pressure. On the eighth day, the NDS officer came with a piece of paper in his hand. He told me to write that I had downloaded the document from the internet and that I had added several sentences to it. They told me that if I wrote this, they would release me."

Khalilurahman Adli, the judge who heads the public security branch of the Balkh court that sentenced Kaambakhsh, insisted the defendant had been treated fairly.

"We had other evidence as well," he told IWPR. "In addition to circulating that document, he had anti-Islamic texts on his mobile phone."

At Balkh University, 16 students and lecturers signed a document condemning Kaambakhsh's behavior and describing his allegedly "anti-Islamic" behavior.

"All of the testimony is in his dossier; you can study it," said Adli.

Kaambakhsh's brother Ibrahimi, who is a staff reporter for IWPR, bristles at such allegations.

"He may have had some jokes on his phone, something harmless about girls," he said angrily. "As for the testimony of his classmates – well, you can get anybody to say anything you want."

Despite the alacrity with which the trial was concluded, no one seems eager for the death penalty to be carried out.

"This is the primary court, he has a long way to go," said Adli. "There are other steps, and [Kaambakhsh] can defend himself. That is his legal right."

Afghanistan's Ministry of Information and Culture also issued a statement emphasizing that the verdict was not final.

About the only ones calling for Kaambakhsh's death are the Taliban, who carried a virulent attack on the young man on their website, alemarah.org.

Condemning Kaambakhsh's "dirty statement," the Taliban called on "jihadi and brave Afghans to administer severe chastisement to the perpetrator of this action."

Kaambakhsh's brother has been outspoken about his arrest and imprisonment. From the outset, Ibrahimi has been convinced that the real target of the action was his own reporting.

"I have recently written several reports from the northern provinces about powerful men who were abusing people's rights," he told IWPR. "These men can create any kind of plot they wish - they have influence over all classes of people. They want to punish me in this way."

Ibrahimi's reporting has touched on the interests of "warlords" – local political figures from the former armed factions whose rising power has made life increasingly difficult in the north. He has been frequently threatened, his home and office have been searched, and he has been forced into hiding.

Adli denied that the court was bowing to political pressure.

"The court made its decision on the basis of sharia [Islamic law] and the law of the country. We did not act on anyone's orders," he told IWPR.

Rahimullah Samander, head of the Afghan Independent Journalists' Association, corroborates Ibrahimi's assessment.

"When [Kaambakhsh] was arrested, IWPR's offices in Mazar were searched by the NDS, and [Ibrahimi's] notebooks were taken, which contained contact numbers for the sources in his stories," he said. "This clearly indicates that the government's problem was with Yaqub Ibrahimi, not with Parwez Kaambakhsh. But they could not arrest Yaqub. This was a good way of pressuring Yaqub and his family."

If additional proof were needed, added Samander, one need only consider the position taken by religious scholars around the country. The Ulema or clerical councils of Balkh and Kunduz provinces have issued condemnations of Kaambakhsh. Others have remained silent.

"Why have only the Ulema in Balkh and Kunduz been provoked?" he asked. "It is all due to jihadi [faction] connections. The judges and the prosecutors of Balkh all belong to a specific party, and the administration up there is a dictatorship that abuses its religious and governmental power."

Fazel Rahman Oria, editor of the Erada daily newspaper and a Kabul-based political analyst, also sees political maneuvering behind the scenes.

"The central government is weak, and governors have their own administrations," he said. "[Local political figures] want to get revenge on Parwez Kaambakhsh and his family by exercising their power. It also serves as a lesson to other journalists."
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Here are some practitioners of the religion of peace in Iran:






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I think you will find many here who will not refuse to criticise any religion. Currently, Muslims are the most intolerant on Earth, followed by Christianity in a distant second.

Who me? They are all (almost all) nutbags...the more the christians try to "save" muslims the more pissed off the muslims seem to get...

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In Lesbian deprogramming - Stephanie Riethmiller


"October, 1981, two young women were walking to their suburban Cincinnati home when they were approached by two men. One of the men asked directions; as the women responded, one woman was Maced, the other seized and thrown into a van that whisked her away from the scene.

Thus began the bizarre 'deprogramming' of Stephanie Riethmiller. Suspected by her parents, Marita and William Riethmiller, of becoming a lesbian, Riethmiller, then 19, was driven to a house in Alabama where, she claimed, she was subjected to seven days of forced captivity, verbal harassment, and rape. Last April, the Hamilton County Common Pleas Court in Cincinnatti heard the criminal trial of Riethmiller's captors. In proceedings that drew the attention of gay and women's rights observers from across the country, controversial deprogrammer Ted Patrick and two of his associates - James Roe and Naomi Goss - were variously charged with abduction, assault, and sexual battery. Patrick has built a reputation as a deprogrammer of converts to religious sects."
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And this was not even a crime....

"October, 1981, two young women were walking to their suburban Cincinnati home when they were approached by two men. One of the men asked directions; as the women responded, one woman was Maced, the other seized and thrown into a van that whisked her away from the scene.

Thus began the bizarre 'deprogramming' of Stephanie Riethmiller. Suspected by her parents, Marita and William Riethmiller, of becoming a lesbian, Riethmiller, then 19, was driven to a house in Alabama where, she claimed, she was subjected to seven days of forced captivity, verbal harassment, and rape. Last April, the Hamilton County Common Pleas Court in Cincinnatti heard the criminal trial of Riethmiller's captors. In proceedings that drew the attention of gay and women's rights observers from across the country, controversial deprogrammer Ted Patrick and two of his associates - James Roe and Naomi Goss - were variously charged with abduction, assault, and sexual battery. Patrick has built a reputation as a deprogrammer of converts to religious sects."
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it is not the religion; it is the interpretation. the Bible also gives strict punishment for crimes, but we dont do it anymore. the vast majority of Muslims, i am sure, do not condone this shit. the leaders of their countries interpret the Koran in such a way that they can keep the people down. it is not much different from what America does.
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