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Old 02-13-2008, 03:49 PM   #81 (permalink)
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E-man is thinking down the line of: whoever is "the boss", "wears the pants", "head of household" , makes the ultimate decicions. I can't seem to get him to understand, that marriage is a partnership, and therefore there is no "boss".

I think his medical emergency scenario is not an adequate example of what I was asking him in the first place.
Once again, you are right. The medical scenario shows two people who are qualified to make medical decisions, and two who are not.

And a marriage, in the true postmodern sense (because depending on cultural and temporal contexts, it can mean taking possession) DOES mean a partnership.
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Old 02-13-2008, 03:51 PM   #82 (permalink)
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But they have to. It IS their decision and not that of the doctors. And they disagree. Yet a decision needs to be made RIGHT NOW.
Again, it isn't clear.
Who are the doctors?... why are they giving differing diagnostics? Is one of them a quack? Is it obvious that he is a quack?

Maybe a third opinion is needed, from someone with the letters M.D. attached to their name?

Furthermore, say there is only one doctor, and the issue is about a controversial experimental surgery that may save or kill the child. THEN, maybe the decision to operate or not could lay with the parents. But again: why are the parents arguing for power over the life of their child?
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Old 02-13-2008, 05:43 PM   #83 (permalink)
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The Christian man and the Christian woman take propoer instruction from God. Others make up their own rules. Eman respects the Christian way. For it is the proper way.
spell it out: what is the role of the man and woman?
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Old 02-13-2008, 07:16 PM   #84 (permalink)
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Well that is not surprising. You are not a Christian woman and probably see yourself as the boss of your man.
Maybe she just sees herself as the boss of herself.
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Old 02-13-2008, 07:20 PM   #85 (permalink)
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But they have to. It IS their decision and not that of the doctors. And they disagree. Yet a decision needs to be made RIGHT NOW.
If two doctors provide completely different professional opinions, it would be a good idea to get a third opinion. From a professional, rather than an uniformed decision based on being sperm or egg donor.
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I am a man. It is something you are not familiar with.
And how many men are you "familiar" with?
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I strive to be a good person for the sake of being good, not because a mythical creature "tells" me to be.[/QUOTE]

I agree wholeheartedly!!!!!!!!!!!!
Eman disagrees hole-headedly.
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The Christian man and the Christian woman take propoer instruction from God. Others make up their own rules. Eman respects the Christian way. For it is the proper way.
If you took proper instruction from God when you ended your marriage, I guess you weren't able to satisfy your wife. Because following "God's proper instruction" regarding divorce, you could have done it if your wife cheated.

Seriously, E, marriage advice from somebody who could NOT make it work for himself is like sex advice from a eunich.
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My medical emergency is the perfect example and it makes my point. I understand that a married couple is a partnership. But there has to be a final head of the household for countless such decisions. But it is not for you. I understand that. It is the model for the Christian family.
Since AuCanada and LC answered the whole medical emergency scenario adequately already, I will leave it at that, since I agree with them.

I have been married to the same Man for a very long time, and I can tell you, that there has never been a "final" head of household around here. We both work/ed our asses off, raised three children, he served his Country by being a Soldier, I held down the Fort, when he got deployed somewhere, and we couldn't go with him. After he retired, we started a life out here in Civilian Land, now we live in the Country, with our Horses and our Dogs, the Kids all have good Jobs and Lives, and we are still working our asses off. True, we are not Christians per se. By that I mean, we are christians by indoctrination only, and have since seen the light (so to speak) We make decisions based on the benefit of the whole, versus the benefit of the one. Because everything one of us does, affects the other. So we take that into consideration, when it's decision making time. And the reason we lasted this long, is because we let eachother BE.
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