Terrorism is un-Islamic, say Muslim scholars in India

BillCosby · 02-25-2008, 08:52 AM

By DPA
Tags: fatwa, India, Islam

The Darul-Uloom Deoband in India, considered the most influential school for Islamic law in Asia, on Monday denounced terrorism as being against the teachings of Islam and said it was likely to impose a fatwa against it during a conference of clerics from India and abroad, media reports said.

The head of the powerful seminary, Maulana Marghoobur Rahman, said terrorism was completely wrong and thoughtless, and contradicted Islam's concept of peace, the NDTV network reported, quoting from his address to 10,000 clerics from religious schools - known as madrassas - and foreign delegates.

Speaking at the institution, some 150 kilometers north of New Delhi, Rahman also criticized the Indian government, saying that policing of madrassas and students was unjustified and went against the secular character of the country.
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Meanwhile, scholars said the conference was likely to decide on a fatwa against terrorism and adopt a declaration denouncing terrorism.

The conference will also ask the Muslim community to stay away from acts of terrorism and organizations that encourage violence in the name of religion.

It was the first time in the school's 150-year history that such a conference against terrorism was held.

The seminary was established in the late 19th century and has adherents from Afghanistan and Pakistan to the whole of South-East Asia. The Taliban have often claimed adherence to the Deoband school, which has been strongly denied by the scholars there.

Deoband spokesman Asif Siddique told the NDTV that misconceptions linked with Islam and madrassas needed to be removed.

"We want to make the public conscious (about terrorism). The disease of (terrorism) has been diagnosed in a wrong way. Whenever any incident of terrorism happens, there is an effort to link it to Muslims or those studying in madrassas," he said.

"This is totally wrong. I must emphasize that the real disease must be diagnosed, then only is the cure possible," Siddique said.

Lolli · 02-25-2008, 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by BillCosby

By DPA
Meanwhile, scholars said the conference was likely to decide on a fatwa against terrorism and adopt a declaration denouncing terrorism.

The conference will also ask the Muslim community to stay away from acts of terrorism and organizations that encourage violence in the name of religion.

It was the first time in the school's 150-year history that such a conference against terrorism was held.

The seminary was established in the late 19th century and has adherents from Afghanistan and Pakistan to the whole of South-East Asia. The Taliban have often claimed adherence to the Deoband school, which has been strongly denied by the scholars there.

Deoband spokesman Asif Siddique told the NDTV that misconceptions linked with Islam and madrassas needed to be removed.

That's good and all and hopefully it will make a difference. However, these are not misconceptions since it is fact that most acts of terrorism are by people who are from muslim countries and claim to be musllim. It's also fact that many wars and conflicts involve muslim countries. Islam also have a very violent history and existence. The poor treatment of women in most muslim shows us that Islam isn't about peace necessarily, these are facts that cannot be denied or overlooked - hence people's perception that Islam is violent.

BillCosby · 02-25-2008, 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by lollipop

That's good and all and hopefully it will make a difference. However, these are not misconceptions since it is fact that most acts of terrorism are by people who are from muslim countries and claim to be musllim. It's also fact that many wars and conflicts involve muslim countries. Islam also have a very violent history and existence. The poor treatment of women in most muslim shows us that Islam isn't about peace necessarily, these are facts that cannot be denied or overlooked - hence people's perception that Islam is violent.

Ppl's perceptions, much like their opinions are based @ least partly on what they project into them...........

Take your point above:

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Islam also have a very violent history

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The history of Islam is surely violent, but then history has been much about violence......... I believe the implication here is that they are more violent historically then someone else............

Lolli · 02-25-2008, 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by BillCosby

Ppl's perceptions, much like their opinions are based @ least partly on what they project into them...........

Take your point above: ..................

The history of Islam is surely violent, but then history has been much about violence......... I believe the implication here is that they are more violent historically then someone else............

haha...i knew when i was writing that part, that you were going to say that.

God Is Santa for Adults · 02-25-2008, 10:08 AM

I'm so glad to hear some muslims, any muslims, speak out against terrorism. It is quite hard to fight the urge to get 72 virgins in heaven when that is all one hears about.
I hope this 'madrass' has some real influence on their religion.

The way I look at it in terms of past violence: the middle east is in the dark ages like xtians were a couple hundred years ago. the churchs rule their lives much like catholics did during our european history, they are just a few centuries behind us. we only let women vote less than 100 yrs ago. and slavery, well let's not even go there...

so let's all hope this could be the start of a turning point in muslim/xtian history.

BillCosby · 02-25-2008, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by lollipop

haha...i knew when i was writing that part, that you were going to say that.

Hey I am consistent or predictable.......???lol

So??????

Gaia · 02-25-2008, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by BillCosby

By DPA
Tags: fatwa, India, Islam

The Darul-Uloom Deoband in India, considered the most influential school for Islamic law in Asia, on Monday denounced terrorism as being against the teachings of Islam and said it was likely to impose a fatwa against it during a conference of clerics from India and abroad, media reports said.

The head of the powerful seminary, Maulana Marghoobur Rahman, said terrorism was completely wrong and thoughtless, and contradicted Islam's concept of peace, the NDTV network reported, quoting from his address to 10,000 clerics from religious schools - known as madrassas - and foreign delegates.

Speaking at the institution, some 150 kilometers north of New Delhi, Rahman also criticized the Indian government, saying that policing of madrassas and students was unjustified and went against the secular character of the country.
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Meanwhile, scholars said the conference was likely to decide on a fatwa against terrorism and adopt a declaration denouncing terrorism.

The conference will also ask the Muslim community to stay away from acts of terrorism and organizations that encourage violence in the name of religion.

It was the first time in the school's 150-year history that such a conference against terrorism was held.

The seminary was established in the late 19th century and has adherents from Afghanistan and Pakistan to the whole of South-East Asia. The Taliban have often claimed adherence to the Deoband school, which has been strongly denied by the scholars there.

Deoband spokesman Asif Siddique told the NDTV that misconceptions linked with Islam and madrassas needed to be removed.

"We want to make the public conscious (about terrorism). The disease of (terrorism) has been diagnosed in a wrong way. Whenever any incident of terrorism happens, there is an effort to link it to Muslims or those studying in madrassas," he said.

"This is totally wrong. I must emphasize that the real disease must be diagnosed, then only is the cure possible," Siddique said.

Time will tell, how this shakes out. I'm happy to hear they are having a conference and addressing the issue of terrorism. It's a start.

Education and eleviating poverty would also be a step in the right direction.

And solving the Palestinian-Israeli conflict.

AuCanada · 02-25-2008, 10:40 AM

Good for them... the world needs more of this kind of thinking.

Lolli · 02-25-2008, 10:43 AM

This is the response I got from a Pakistani muslim in regards to this article:

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The school of deoband are the pioneers of modern day terrorism stemming out from south asia. Their teachings were followed by the taliban, and the ultra religious factions like (sipah sahaba, jash muhaamed) in pakistan.

I'm waiting to get details/facts/sources to back this claim

Hugo de Balsac · 02-25-2008, 11:02 AM

terror used to make for good fiction, until someone put these untalented, greedy Republicans in charge of everything.

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BillCosby The party of the pissed!! Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 4,504 My Mood: Thanks: 183 Thanked 119 Times in 92 Posts	Terrorism is un-Islamic, say Muslim scholars in India By DPA Tags: fatwa, India, Islam The Darul-Uloom Deoband in India, considered the most influential school for Islamic law in Asia, on Monday denounced terrorism as being against the teachings of Islam and said it was likely to impose a fatwa against it during a conference of clerics from India and abroad, media reports said. The head of the powerful seminary, Maulana Marghoobur Rahman, said terrorism was completely wrong and thoughtless, and contradicted Islam's concept of peace, the NDTV network reported, quoting from his address to 10,000 clerics from religious schools - known as madrassas - and foreign delegates. Speaking at the institution, some 150 kilometers north of New Delhi, Rahman also criticized the Indian government, saying that policing of madrassas and students was unjustified and went against the secular character of the country. Advertisement Meanwhile, scholars said the conference was likely to decide on a fatwa against terrorism and adopt a declaration denouncing terrorism. The conference will also ask the Muslim community to stay away from acts of terrorism and organizations that encourage violence in the name of religion. It was the first time in the school's 150-year history that such a conference against terrorism was held. The seminary was established in the late 19th century and has adherents from Afghanistan and Pakistan to the whole of South-East Asia. The Taliban have often claimed adherence to the Deoband school, which has been strongly denied by the scholars there. Deoband spokesman Asif Siddique told the NDTV that misconceptions linked with Islam and madrassas needed to be removed. "We want to make the public conscious (about terrorism). The disease of (terrorism) has been diagnosed in a wrong way. Whenever any incident of terrorism happens, there is an effort to link it to Muslims or those studying in madrassas," he said. "This is totally wrong. I must emphasize that the real disease must be diagnosed, then only is the cure possible," Siddique said. __________________ Preventive war is not war!!!!Counter-terror is not terror
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God Is Santa for Adults Alcohol & Tobacco Free! Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Tampa, Florida Posts: 402 My Mood: Thanks: 4 Thanked 8 Times in 6 Posts	I'm so glad to hear some muslims, any muslims, speak out against terrorism. It is quite hard to fight the urge to get 72 virgins in heaven when that is all one hears about. I hope this 'madrass' has some real influence on their religion. The way I look at it in terms of past violence: the middle east is in the dark ages like xtians were a couple hundred years ago. the churchs rule their lives much like catholics did during our european history, they are just a few centuries behind us. we only let women vote less than 100 yrs ago. and slavery, well let's not even go there... so let's all hope this could be the start of a turning point in muslim/xtian history. __________________ Have Faith in Yourself... . ...Not an invisible friend! *I Believe = I Guess Religion is an Illusion of Control!* www.Yessy.com/OldBaldy www.OldBaldyPhoto.com
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AuCanada Doctor of Sarcasm Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 600 My Mood: Thanks: 3 Thanked 13 Times in 11 Posts	Good for them... the world needs more of this kind of thinking. __________________ Don't Panic
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Hugo de Balsac subterranean cosmonaut Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: under the stars Posts: 68 My Mood: Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	terror used to make for good fiction, until someone put these untalented, greedy Republicans in charge of everything. __________________ art is all that stands between ape and enthusiast.
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