Thumpers numbers dwindling! (New poll finds) - Page 3

Gaia · 03-07-2008, 02:14 AM

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Originally Posted by AlineaHeart

I guess I was paying too much attention to Floyd's own title to the thread. Still, the article does talk about the numbers dwindling...and yet the other is about memberships and money on the rise. Hmm.

Those big mega churches, yeah, they are on the rise. The more, the merrier, right?

AlineaHeart · 03-07-2008, 02:21 AM

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Originally Posted by mentor

One would hope that humanity would be leaving such childish things behind. But then again, look at the money we spend to watch professional sports.

I'll agree that a lot of what is found in xtian teachings are the abc's of spirituality. However, losing them all together seems quite abrupt. I noticed you kind of left your other humanity thread alone but perhaps if we made a different comparison, all spirituality would not be viewed as child's play. Right now, Native American spirituality is coming to mind. Even today, we tend to think of them as wiser than ourselves. So I suppose my question is - when you refer to childish things - are you referring to xtianity or * all * spiritual practices?

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Originally Posted by mentor

LOL! Participating in sports is one thing, and watching is another. I think many view their religion as a spectator sport

Well I was playing online with him at the time and I wasn't actually connecting it to what you said (I consider pool to be a game, not sport). I believe there is some truth to some viewing their religion as a spectator sport. In the other thread, my suggestion was self-exploration...which precludes spectators for the most part. Yet, after someone has remembered themselves, they tend to be on display (often misunderstood too).

Come to think of it, most everything in our american society has become like a spectator sport. Which is probably why will still have "losers" and less cooperation for the benefit of all.

AlineaHeart · 03-07-2008, 02:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Gaia

Those big mega churches, yeah, they are on the rise. The more, the merrier, right?

I was only wondering if those bookstores and food courts were staffed by employees or volunteers.

Can you imagine the guilt trips in those places? Brr.

Gaia · 03-07-2008, 04:46 AM

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Originally Posted by AlineaHeart

I was only wondering if those bookstores and food courts were staffed by employees or volunteers.

Can you imagine the guilt trips in those places? Brr.

Oh, I would imagine, that everyone involved makes plenty of money. What gripes me more than anything, is that they don't have to pay Taxes!

Makes me wanna start some bogus "Church" (J.K.!!

)

Why oh why do people believe, that they can 'buy' their way into heaven?

Gaia · 03-07-2008, 04:58 AM

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Come to think of it, most everything in our american society has become like a spectator sport. Which is probably why will still have "losers" and less cooperation for the benefit of all.

Kind of like the Romans with the gladiators and all the rest of the fun stuff they did in those big arenas.

People want to be entertained, amused, lulled into believing, that everything's alright, even if it isn't.

Everything is geared toward consuming. You gotta buy stuff you don't need, with money you don't have.

And now and then, you say "praise god/jesus/whatever", just to be on the safe side.

mentor · 03-07-2008, 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by AlineaHeart

I'll agree that a lot of what is found in xtian teachings are the abc's of spirituality. However, losing them all together seems quite abrupt. I noticed you kind of left your other humanity thread alone but perhaps if we made a different comparison, all spirituality would not be viewed as child's play. Right now, Native American spirituality is coming to mind. Even today, we tend to think of them as wiser than ourselves. So I suppose my question is - when you refer to childish things - are you referring to xtianity or * all * spiritual practices?

Well I was playing online with him at the time and I wasn't actually connecting it to what you said (I consider pool to be a game, not sport). I believe there is some truth to some viewing their religion as a spectator sport. In the other thread, my suggestion was self-exploration...which precludes spectators for the most part. Yet, after someone has remembered themselves, they tend to be on display (often misunderstood too).

Come to think of it, most everything in our american society has become like a spectator sport. Which is probably why will still have "losers" and less cooperation for the benefit of all.

There are lots of things about religion that I really don't want to throw away. Spirituality is one of them. A sense of community is another. Tradition to a certain extent. Literal interpretation and blind faith are the main things I think should go. They are childish. We should try and not be childish, but at the same time have a child-like inquisitiveness

okpfloyd · 03-07-2008, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by mentor

There are lots of things about religion that I really don't want to throw away. Spirituality is one of them. A sense of community is another. Tradition to a certain extent. Literal interpretation and blind faith are the main things I think should go. They are childish. We should try and not be childish, but at the same time have a child-like inquisitiveness

One can be spiritual and non-religious. That's me...I also have a sense of community and have actively advocated ways to improve society..see my starter site...lol..alcoholthenarcotic.org bet you were wondering when that ogre was to reappear eh?

Tradition is what you make of it...people like me are not monkey see monkey do people. I like my personal tradition of getting her a towel afterwards. It's also a tradition to have a fattie ready for the numbnut's show. (Bill Maher). Is it even on tonight?

The people of "literal interpretation" are the zombies on this planet. Sometimes just mindless dippics breathing up the air...see, you get me going man and I insult 60% of the population!....oh wait, it's going down...that's 59%...in other words we still suck with religion in this country.

mentor · 03-08-2008, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by okpfloyd

One can be spiritual and non-religious. That's me...I also have a sense of community and have actively advocated ways to improve society..see my starter site...lol..alcoholthenarcotic.org bet you were wondering when that ogre was to reappear eh?

Tradition is what you make of it...people like me are not monkey see monkey do people. I like my personal tradition of getting her a towel afterwards. It's also a tradition to have a fattie ready for the numbnut's show. (Bill Maher). Is it even on tonight?

The people of "literal interpretation" are the zombies on this planet. Sometimes just mindless dippics breathing up the air...see, you get me going man and I insult 60% of the population!....oh wait, it's going down...that's 59%...in other words we still suck with religion in this country.

Excellent web page OK. That is a good cause. I have been making a concerted effort to restrict my use of that drug to social occasions. It is one of the most easily abused drugs readily available. Though not miss used quite as much as religion! (Of course mixing the two has a synergistic affect, commonly known as Redneckism

)

okpfloyd · 03-10-2008, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by mentor

Excellent web page OK. That is a good cause. I have been making a concerted effort to restrict my use of that drug to social occasions. It is one of the most easily abused drugs readily available. Though not miss used quite as much as religion! (Of course mixing the two has a synergistic affect, commonly known as Redneckism

)

Hey M, actually I think adults can do as they please as long as they are doping responsibly it's none-of-my-business..tho~ I'd hope more adults would get help if they are addicted to this drug, I center on prevention in the teen drinking epidemic...I am in contact with an interested senator on the teen trinking issue. She's very open to my ideas and we met last month.

It's a can-o-worms but someone has to do it, eh?

Have some jesus juice today!...many thumpers counter my ideas by saying that "jesus turned water into wine" ..to which I reply, "but did HE provide that kegger for the neighbor teen party?"

God Is Santa for Adults · 03-10-2008, 01:36 PM

floydd, I thought you may like to know I just passed my 4 yr mark. Damn, when I started I never imagined I could have made it this long without alcohol. besides the downturn in the real estate market and the economy, things have never been better. (no alcohol = no vote for W

)

Leap year day only comes around every four years. so has it been 1 or 4 yrs for me?

03-10-2008, 01:36 PM	#30 (permalink)
God Is Santa for Adults Alcohol & Tobacco Free! Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Tampa, Florida Posts: 394 My Mood: Thanks: 3 Thanked 8 Times in 6 Posts	I just Passed MY 4 year mark without alcohol! floydd, I thought you may like to know I just passed my 4 yr mark. Damn, when I started I never imagined I could have made it this long without alcohol. besides the downturn in the real estate market and the economy, things have never been better. (no alcohol = no vote for W) Leap year day only comes around every four years. so has it been 1 or 4 yrs for me? __________________ Have Faith in Yourself... . ...Not an invisible friend! *I Believe = I Guess Religion is an Illusion of Control!* www.Yessy.com/OldBaldy www.OldBaldyPhoto.com
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