Heretic

Ahh! Right! Forgot myself there for a moment!

"And don't go dying on me. I'm a lawyer, I got friends in hell." -Suicide Kings

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djack

Unfortunately they're probably going to walk. And they don't feel any guilt because it was god's will.
Clever use of god as he was intended to absolve assholes of their guilt.
"What could we do? We prayed hard."

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slowhand

Remember this one?

Former sect leader loses bid for new trial in son's death


December 4, 2007
BOSTON—The state's highest court has denied a new trial for a former leader of a religious sect who was convicted of murder in the starvation death of his infant son.


Jacques Robidoux was one of the leaders of a small Attleboro cult known as The Body. He was charged with murder after his son, Samuel, died three days before his first birthday in April 1999.
Robidoux said he and his wife believed they were following a message from God when they began feeding Samuel only his mother's breast milk. Prosecutors said the boy starved over the next 51 days because his mother stopped producing enough milk to nourish him.
Jacques Robidoux appealed his conviction to the state Supreme Judicial Court, arguing he was mentally ill and under the brainwashing influence of the cult and his former lawyer should have used an insanity defense.
But the court ruled Tuesday that it was Robidoux himself who rejected the insanity defense after consulting with the lawyer.

Alinea

Thoughts:

A google on this brings the same story up for me, word for word. So, what I can't find is what the family and friends said Madeline wanted/said about her own condition. Did she ever ask to go to a doctor? Also, having been in a public school before, she probably knew what 911 was...funny enough, a search on her name brings up a story about another Madeline Neumann whose do not revive order was ignored.

I suppose I just don't find fault with the parents. Regardless of whether one has the same spiritual beliefs, the question of belief in medicine is debatable as well. Perhaps it's because I just read an article linking the amounts of mercury in vaccines and the rise of autism in our society. Shunning one for the other doesn't seem to be the answer to anything.

At any rate, death is a choice and always has been. I've a mind to reincarnate and hang myself as a three year old just to prove it.

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Xcaezarx

That would be quite a feat. Please let me know when you figure that one out. I will be throughly impressed when you figure it out

DanS.

Death isn't a choice for a child that is denied options by their parents.

Alinea

Um, which part would be quite a feat? Reincarnating or hanging myself in a way that no one blames the parents or an accident for the hanging? Latter part's easy - scribble fuk u on the walls with crayons. Former part is fairly easy too...though...apparently it's easier to understand how we animate these mudsacks from the other side.

PS - I know I have a demented sense of humor.

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Alinea

Yes it is. Two children come down with the same form of cancer...receive the same treatment...one lives, other dies. Explain how this is without touching on the will of the child to live in the first place.

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DanS.

Or two children have cancer...recieve the same treatment and the one that doesn't have the will to live does anyway while the other one that wanted to live dies. Explain to me how genetics had nothing to do with it. Explain to me how a child without access to basic medical life saving procedures is going to survive a disease that is both 100% treatable and 100% deadly if not...explain how she has any other option than will alone. To make that assertion would mean that the entire medical industry is based only on smoke and mirrors and will...and that will alone dicatates who lives and who dies...that is not something that any reasonable person can believe or force onto their children....

Alinea

I didn't say death was always a conscious decision.

? Genetics? What are you referring to besides her choice of body? Interesting point, though what I think about that is probably different from you. That is to say, I believe we choose our families for the experiences we wish to have while here.

Translation: any life that is shortened is wasted? Perhaps this is just the living's interest in keeping the person here? Why is it a stretch to believe that an entity may incarnate to experience a few years and purposely choose a family that would lead to such an "end"?

I'll try not to mention placebo effect. Damn.

I think you're getting at the word victim and...while it may boggle the adult mind, children are not little people developing a personality. They are coming into tune with this place and some take longer than others. Some are faster in their approach, others average, and still a few that take longer than average. I read that the oldest souls/entities/personalities (whatever you wish to call them) can take the longest to "adjust" to their physical form. Reminds me of how Einstein was up in the years to begin talking. Regardless, this case really is about belief - that of spirituality and medicine. Both can be harmful, both beneficial.

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