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Old 05-15-2008, 06:17 PM   #431 (permalink)
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For you to reject God and support Satan amounts to you supporting evil.
First off, to reject fallible human ideas regarding God is not the same thing as rejecting the possibility that a god (or gods) may exist. Second, can you provide any proof at all that rejecting equals supporting Satan? Does the equation work boths ways? (Hint: if the equation is valid, it works both ways) Does rejecting Satan equate to support of God, even if God is not being considered by the rejector of Satan?

And finally, your desire for lockstep adherence to the letter of God's laws as interpreted by fallible men in the OT over and above the great commandment of love as given by Jesus in the NT (which genuine christians would regard as being a faultless rendering of God's will, since it came from a perfect being rather than a faulty mortal man), identifies you as a non-christian. Have you forgotten the lesson of the parable of the Good Samaritan?

You withhold love and desire vengenace, even against those who have never harmed you. Jesus calls upon you to give unconditional love to all of your fellow humans. But the moment you start deciding who is worthy and who is unworthy of love and forgiveness, your love ceases to be unconditional.

BTW, your desire to force others to adhere to God's laws while making excuses for your own failure to do so indentifies you as a hypocrite.

If you really wanted to promote faith in Jesus as a positive and transformative thing, you would never tell anybody that you are a christian. You make the faith look small and petty.
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Old 05-15-2008, 06:23 PM   #432 (permalink)
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Wait a minute. I remember you. You used to be somebody.
If she used to be somebody, then she's still got one up on you.
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Old 05-15-2008, 06:25 PM   #433 (permalink)
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George Bush is not the ruler of the world.
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Whenever I have the honor of speaking to the president I compliment him on his excellent presidency.
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"I AM.......SOMEBODY.
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Old 05-15-2008, 07:06 PM   #436 (permalink)
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First off, to reject fallible human ideas regarding God is not the same thing as rejecting the possibility that a god (or gods) may exist. Second, can you provide any proof at all that rejecting equals supporting Satan? Does the equation work boths ways? (Hint: if the equation is valid, it works both ways) Does rejecting Satan equate to support of God, even if God is not being considered by the rejector of Satan?
Yes. Rejecting Satan equals supporting God.

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And finally, your desire for lockstep adherence to the letter of God's laws as interpreted by fallible men in the OT over and above the great commandment of love as given by Jesus in the NT (which genuine christians would regard as being a faultless rendering of God's will, since it came from a perfect being rather than a faulty mortal man), identifies you as a non-christian. Have you forgotten the lesson of the parable of the Good Samaritan?
Funny. A Satanist using the Bible to debate me. A convenient tool of disciples of Satan.

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You withhold love and desire vengenace, even against those who have never harmed you. Jesus calls upon you to give unconditional love to all of your fellow humans. But the moment you start deciding who is worthy and who is unworthy of love and forgiveness, your love ceases to be unconditional.
I seek justice for the children of Smith and Yeager. You support them, and thus their actions.

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BTW, your desire to force others to adhere to God's laws while making excuses for your own failure to do so indentifies you as a hypocrite.
I do not seek to force anyone. I provide information in the hope that they will utilize logic and science to make the right decisions.

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If you really wanted to promote faith in Jesus as a positive and transformative thing, you would never tell anybody that you are a christian. You make the faith look small and petty.
Yet I am a Christian. And welcome your membership.
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Old 05-15-2008, 07:13 PM   #437 (permalink)
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Whenever I have the honor of speaking to the president I compliment him on his excellent presidency.
Nothing quite as entertaining as a liar lying to another liar, eh?
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Old 05-15-2008, 07:14 PM   #438 (permalink)
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"I AM.......SOMEBODY.
You just keep telling yourself that, little fella...
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Old 05-15-2008, 07:25 PM   #439 (permalink)
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Yes. Rejecting Satan equals supporting God.
Great. I reject both God and Satan as being fictional creations from the imagination of men.


QUOTE]Funny. A Satanist using the Bible to debate me. A convenient tool of disciples of Satan.[/quote]Look, kiddo, you're the one who believes in the power of Satan, not me. I don't even believes he exists.


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I seek justice for the children of Smith and Yeager. You support them, and thus their actions.
You can seek justice all you like, but there's not a single thing you can do that affect those dead children in any way. Your christ-defying hatred of their mothers only damages your own soul.


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I do not seek to force anyone. I provide information in the hope that they will utilize logic and science to make the right decisions.
Logic and science dictate that there is no more cause to believe your chosen fairy tale than anybody else's.


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Yet I am a Christian. And welcome your member.
You cannot have my member. How many times must I tell you that I don't swing that way? How often must I remind you that even if I did, you are far below my standards? And when will you realize that no matter how many times you call yourself a christian, you will never be one until you put the teachings attributed to Jesus above your own petty desires for vengeance?

THE ONLY DEFINITION OF A CHRISTIAN IS A PERSON STRIVES TO MAKE THE TEACHINGS OF CHRIST THE FULCRUM OF HIS OR HER LIFE.
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Old 05-15-2008, 07:27 PM   #440 (permalink)
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