LeisureChrist

Bullshit. You never bothered to involve yourself in the lives of Andrea Yates or her children while those kids were alive. When Andrea tried to take her own life with pills a couple of years before she killed her children, did you jump in and offer to help ease her burden? Of course not. You only care about punishing somebody. Because you have no use for the forgiveness, do you?If half a million people who were doing nothing to threaten the US or Israel have to die so that the US and Israel can feel safe, neither the US or Israel are worthy of protection.

What do copycats have to do with anything? If you are so unwilling to consider the mental illness of these women as mitigating circumstances in their actions, then surely you must hold anybody "inspired" by them wholly accountable for their own actions as well. This means you cannot blame any "copycats" on Andrea or Susan. Unless you want to blame Cain for what the ladies have done (BTW, if God is so big on capital punishment, why did he give Cain a guarantee that nobody would kill him for the death of Abel?).

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LeisureChrist

If justice involves any sort of punishment, it is wholly incompatible with forgiveness...


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for·give Audio Help /fərˈgɪv/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[fer-giv] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation verb, -gave, -giv·en, -giv·ing.
–verb (used with object) 1. to grant pardon for or remission of (an offense, debt, etc.); absolve.
2. to give up all claim on account of; remit (a debt, obligation, etc.).
3. to grant pardon to (a person).
4. to cease to feel resentment against: to forgive one's enemies.
5. to cancel an indebtedness or liability of: to forgive the interest owed on a loan.
–verb (used without object) 6. to pardon an offense or an offender.


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[Origin: bef. 900; for- + give; r. ME foryiven, OE forgiefan]

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Gaia

Stop your Bullshit, Man!

You do not know my Mind and Heart!

You are Not God! So quit blathering as if you were!

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Gaia

Israel Schmisrael.

They have Nukes and can take care of themselves! The War in Iraq is only so lots of Evil People can make alot of Money at the expense of innocent Iraqi Men, Women and Children.

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Chungar

You care for the people of the world and then through your justification of what the good book tells you, you'd have their heads because of God's justice.

Eman, What if God told you directly to kill your child? What would you do? We hear these stories almost daily of people that have their head full of religion and they kill their kids because they're "Demonic".

Again, the problem with Christianity is that people like Eman take it way too seriously. It's a book of rules that may have done some good from time to time in the history of mankind but it's also been one of the bloodiest crusades of All time! It's sole reason for lasting is FEAR.
FEAR of living an eternity in Hell!

With that... I do believe there is a God but it has very little to do with The God from The Bible and we'll have no true understanding of it until we die.

Environment Man

Well then state who you are. All I know is that you are a self professed pagan. That is the same as an atheist to me. Or and agnostic. Or any of a number of other variations

Environment Man

Well those people are on drugs or crazy. Acid is like that.

Just as in the Bible, if I was absolutely certain that God wanted my to kill my child I would. I would do whatever God told me. But I would have to be absolutely sure. I would do whatever God required of me.

Oh bull crap. I want to do what God wants me to do because of love. And because he is worthy. I respect the penalties for disobeying his wishes.

Well you believe in God and that is a very good thing.

Environment Man

Well I did not know them as I dont know most people. I do know they should be drowned to get justice for those children. I will forgive them AND society should mete justice.

Forgiveness and redemption are one two things. But justice must be served. God even used his son to provide justice for original sin. God forgives but he does not ignore the need for justice. His equations must always be balanced.

Drowing some of these lazy fools will put an end to the foolishness.

Environment Man

Well probably that too. But it is not the main reason.

LeisureChrist

Do you see the part that I underlined? Read it again. You see? Do you you see? You do not describe what is... You describe what seems to be to you. As such, what you call "description" is actually your own JUDGEMENT.

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