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Old 06-08-2008, 05:41 PM   #571 (permalink)
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Free Will always allows for the possibility of evil. It does not mean that one will have to choose it.
So you freely admit that God is the cause/creator of all evil?
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Old 06-08-2008, 05:42 PM   #572 (permalink)
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True, not exactly the most logical theology.

See, this is why any good religion needs a trckster god.

Until then I'll send my prayers to where I know the answer:



"MEEP, MEEP!!"
Any god worth his/her/it's salt definitely needs a sense of humor.
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So you freely admit that God is the cause/creator of all evil?
People cause and create their own evil. God has given us a choice; whether we choose His way or the world's way is totally up to us. And, He knows which way it will be for each of us, because He is all seeing and all knowing.
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People cause and create their own evil. God has given us a choice; whether we choose His way or the world's way is totally up to us. And, He knows which way it will be for each of us, because He is all seeing and all knowing.
"I form the light, and create darkness. I make peace, and create evil. I the LORD do all these things." Isaiah 45:7

Evil cannot exist without God's permission. How can something exist without God letting it?
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People cause and create their own evil. God has given us a choice; whether we choose His way or the world's way is totally up to us. And, He knows which way it will be for each of us, because He is all seeing and all knowing.
If he knows my choices before I make them, and he cannot be wrong, I do not actually have any choice at all, do I? Merely the illusion of choice.
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So you freely admit that God is the cause/creator of all evil?
Evil comes from abusing free will by breaking any of God's laws.
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Any god worth his/her/it's salt definitely needs a sense of humor.
God created emotions in humans and he thus has a great sense of humor.
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People cause and create their own evil. God has given us a choice; whether we choose His way or the world's way is totally up to us. And, He knows which way it will be for each of us, because He is all seeing and all knowing.
Exactly. The options arent that complex and Jesus easily predicted his betrayal before the cock crowed thrice.
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"I form the light, and create darkness. I make peace, and create evil. I the LORD do all these things." Isaiah 45:7

Evil cannot exist without God's permission. How can something exist without God letting it?
Free will is a very powerful gift. That gift creates the potential for evil. But that evil is the choice of the free will abuser. God can do no evil.
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If he knows my choices before I make them, and he cannot be wrong, I do not actually have any choice at all, do I? Merely the illusion of choice.
It is choice. But it is not hard for God to KNOW your heart and to know which CHOICE you will make. Hell I can even do that with you.
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