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Old 06-09-2008, 10:20 PM   #581 (permalink)
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Free will is a very powerful gift. That gift creates the potential for evil. But that evil is the choice of the free will abuser. God can do no evil.
Who created evil if not God?

Is there something else out there that can create and give life?

"God can do no evil."

Now you're taking the word of God, the Bible, and saying it's wrong. "I form the light, and create darkness. I make peace, and create evil. I the LORD do all these things."

Outright SAYS evil is made by the LORD.

What? The word of God not good enough for you now?
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Old 06-09-2008, 10:39 PM   #582 (permalink)
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Who created evil if not God?

Is there something else out there that can create and give life?

"God can do no evil."

Now you're taking the word of God, the Bible, and saying it's wrong. "I form the light, and create darkness. I make peace, and create evil. I the LORD do all these things."

Outright SAYS evil is made by the LORD.

What? The word of God not good enough for you now?
You are simply trying to obfuscate the Bible. Obviously if God created free will and the opportunity for his creations to commit evil then clearly he has 'created' evil. Yet there is not evil in God for everything he does is good. Although he created it through providing the possibility of creations to commit it, even that is not evil because God did it. There is no evil in God.
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Old 06-10-2008, 04:06 AM   #583 (permalink)
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If he knows my choices before I make them, and he cannot be wrong, I do not actually have any choice at all, do I? Merely the illusion of choice.
Exactly!

The more I read Eman's peculiaryties, the more I begin to see, that there is no God.

Can't be, if he lets Edude prattle on without smiting him.

Oh Well.
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Old 06-10-2008, 06:51 AM   #584 (permalink)
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Exactly!

The more I read Eman's peculiaryties, the more I begin to see, that there is no God.

Can't be, if he lets Edude prattle on without smiting him.

Oh Well.
You ignore all of the evidence of God and take one little line to deny him. You simply prefer to worship yourself.

Just look around you for all the evidence of God.
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Old 06-10-2008, 10:16 AM   #585 (permalink)
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You ignore all of the evidence of God and take one little line to deny him. You simply prefer to worship yourself.

Just look around you for all the evidence of God.
I see no evidence of any god, much less any evidence of the specific god that you pretend to believe in.

Maybe you would do a better job of cinvincing people your God is real if you showed some concern for the kind of witness you make to your faith. If you actually had any.
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I see no evidence of any god, much less any evidence of the specific god that you pretend to believe in.

Maybe you would do a better job of cinvincing people your God is real if you showed some concern for the kind of witness you make to your faith. If you actually had any.
Then you are blind.

The Sun Moon and Stars alone are evidence enough of God. The four forces are more evidence. The human brain and the initiation of the Big Bang provide overwhelming evidence of a designing and active God.
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Evil comes from abusing free will by breaking any of God's laws.
Like not accepting the truth of evolution.
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People cause and create their own evil. God has given us a choice; whether we choose His way or the world's way is totally up to us. And, He knows which way it will be for each of us, because He is all seeing and all knowing.
If God created us and we create evil, then God created evil. If it is his way or the world's way (this includes all science and logic), why care about the world?
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Then you are blind.

The Sun Moon and Stars alone are evidence enough of God. The four forces are more evidence. The human brain and the initiation of the Big Bang provide overwhelming evidence of a designing and active God.
The Sun, Moon, and stars are evidence of the Sun, Moon, and stars. Nothing more, nothing less. The three forces (gravity is not a force, it's and effect) are proof of the three forces. Nothing more, nothing less. None of the things you have listed require a god at all, much less the particular God that you choose to pretend to believe in.

However, your continued failure to bother with punctuation is evidence aplenty that you are either an idiot or too lazy to be trusted to refrain from killing your own child (I heard from some guy on a forum that only lazy people do that).
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BTW, aren't they redefining gravity as a force? Since it comes from a physical object as opposed to a force of motion, hence it having properties best described as force?

Just curious......
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