LeisureChrist

What are you, five? If it was simply a matter (no pun intended) of God willing it into being, there would not need to be complex mechanisms for its operation. Occam's Razor cuts the throat of God and you know it.

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LeisureChrist

If he saw it coming, then why did it take him thousands of years after the fact to set into place a plan for the redemption of that law-breaking?

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BleedingPinky

Bertrand Russell summed it up pretty well imo:
´As a philosopher, if I were speaking to a purely philosophic audience I should say that I ought to describe myself as an Agnostic, because I do not think that there is a conclusive argument by which one can prove that there is not a God. On the other hand, if I am to convey the right impression to the ordinary man in the street I think that I ought to say that I am an Atheist, because, when I say that I cannot prove that there is not a God, I ought to add equally that I cannot prove that there are not the Homeric gods´.

As about the creation vs evolution debate, obviously I go for evolutionism. I am aware heuristic-empirical proofs are never perfect. But judging by the many years anthropologists, geologists, biologists, etc have been rigourously studying the subject submitting proofs after proofs, well, as a stupid human being as I am, I trust their papers much more than I can ever trust any book written a couple thousand of years ago.

Malkavian

Any specific thoughts? Anything i could actually verify in the lab?

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Malkavian

So... since he knew it all along, we are cool then? And the whole idea of hell is bollocks? I mean, he can't really punish us for something he made up.

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Jonesy

The Bible is science-fiction before science. Even though a lot is fake, you shouldn't necessarily reject all of Star Trek.

Environment Man

His way is the perfect way. His time is the perfect time.

Environment Man

The Bible informs science. Logic quantifies the Bible. God exists and it is logical that he must. Equations, particularly fundamental questions of matter/energy and space/time, need God to be balanced. God provides the scientific answers. Only voodoo scientists reject God science.

LeisureChrist

We've covered the fact that your insistence on including God in equations is meaningless drivel owing to your inability to quantify God. As far back as the old Maher board, you agreed that this was so and further agreed to refrain from trying it again. Since you continue to do that which you agreed you would not, I can only conclude that you have no honor and that your word is without value.

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Malkavian

No they don't. They need gremlins. Lol, i do mass/energy balances for a living, and if they don't close, it usually means you got a leaky pipe somewhere, or a piece of insulation fell off. I need an o-ring or a piece of wool with duct tape to get back on track. Supernatural powers? Not so much.

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