Dubious Design - Page 2

Environment Man · 04-17-2008, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Malkavian

Well, the Moon is currently leaving Earth, so please tell your god to pick up some slack...

But very slowly. It will be awhile. And then scientists will marvel at theorizing about how it 'magically' corrected itself. They WILL come up with some bullshit. Solar storm or some other bullshit.

Malkavian · 04-17-2008, 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Environment Man

But very slowly. It will be awhile. And then scientists will marvel at theorizing about how it 'magically' corrected itself. They WILL come up with some bullshit. Solar storm or some other bullshit.

Solar storm will burn the scientists together with the rest of us well before the moon stabilizes it's orbit...

LeisureChrist · 04-17-2008, 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Environment Man

Then all of theoretical physics is conjecture. All scientific theories are conjecture. The composition of the inside of the Earth is conjecture. The smallest components of the atom are conjecture. I could go on forever. Logic and Science can discern the answers to conjectures logically and scientifically.

You posted this tripe in response to "The most logical path is to realize that since one cannot observe outside of the physical universe, conjecture about beings existing outside the universe is merely that... Conjecture." Tell me exactly how theoretical physics or the composition of the inside of the Earth exist outside of the physical universe.

Gaia · 04-18-2008, 03:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Environment Man

We told God we could manage the Earth without him. God still powers the entire universe in spite of our arrogance.

"We"? I never told God anything concerning managing the Earth or the like.

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God has said the Earth will NEVER be destroyed so that is not human option nor will the Sun be allowed to destroy nor the Moon to pervert its functions.

"God has said" this to...whom...?

Fact: 50 million years from now (give or take) our Sun will have gone Red Giant, burn up most of this Solar System, and then go Nova.

Fact: The Earth's Moon will move away and destabilize Earth's Rotation, Tilt and Wobble, and therefor it's Climate/Weather Pattern, and Life as we now know it, is over.

Environment Man · 04-18-2008, 06:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Malkavian

Solar storm will burn the scientists together with the rest of us well before the moon stabilizes it's orbit...

I bet you also believe that atoms evolved too don't you?

Malkavian · 04-18-2008, 10:52 AM

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I bet you also believe that atoms evolved too don't you?

They formed from subatomic particles driven by the laws of physics. Not quite the same as biological evolution where selective pressures are more evident... But in a sense, if you use 'evolved' as opposed to 'deliberately created', yes, evolved would be a better term. I prefer to use the term 'formed'.

Environment Man · 04-18-2008, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Malkavian

They formed from subatomic particles driven by the laws of physics. Not quite the same as biological evolution where selective pressures are more evident... But in a sense, if you use 'evolved' as opposed to 'deliberately created', yes, evolved would be a better term. I prefer to use the term 'formed'.

laws of physics would require a law establisher.

formed would require a former.

You cannot get around intelligent design. There is no way an atom could form with design and build specs. Not to mention an infinite number of them. How did they 'know' to do that. And then to self organize? Please.

Environment Man · 04-18-2008, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by LeisureChrist

You posted this tripe in response to "The most logical path is to realize that since one cannot observe outside of the physical universe, conjecture about beings existing outside the universe is merely that... Conjecture." Tell me exactly how theoretical physics or the composition of the inside of the Earth exist outside of the physical universe.

Well you speculate that if you cannot directly see or measure it then it is conjecture. I just pointed out how fruitless most of science would be if conjecture is irrelevant. You just throw science and logic out the door with such notions.

Environment Man · 04-18-2008, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Gaia

"We"? I never told God anything concerning managing the Earth or the like.

Mankind. Adam and Eve through their choice to oppose God.

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"God has said" this to...whom...?

It is in the Bible and it is not hard to find.

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Fact: 50 million years from now (give or take) our Sun will have gone Red Giant, burn up most of this Solar System, and then go Nova.

Fact: The Earth's Moon will move away and destabilize Earth's Rotation, Tilt and Wobble, and therefor it's Climate/Weather Pattern, and Life as we now know it, is over.

Can't happen. The Earth was created as God's jewel in all of existence and it will remain so.

mentor · 04-18-2008, 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Environment Man

laws of physics would require a law establisher.

formed would require a former.

You cannot get around intelligent design. There is no way an atom could form with design and build specs. Not to mention an infinite number of them. How did they 'know' to do that. And then to self organize? Please.

Pure anthropomorphism. You don't understand evolution so you call it God, magic, and creation. You sir, are a poor scientist.

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