Gaia

Can't handle Reality, huh? Oh well...

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Malkavian

We do not currently know where the laws of physics came from because that would require us looking outside our universe. No way of doing so was devised... yet.

Not really. If a bunch of raindrops fall together nearby, they will coalesce into bigger ones. This does not require creator. They so to reduce surface tension and minimize their energy state. Everything in the universe seeks to minimize its energy, so just like bigger raindrops, atoms are at lower state then the sum of their parts...

How do crystals form naturally without any creator? See above, it is the best available configuration for them at the moment. Chemical and nuclear reactions do not require supernatural explanation... They occur naturally and can (more or less) easily be replicated in the lab.

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Environment Man

Intelligent Design and Creationism are reality. Chance as a god is unreality. It is denial of design and build.

Environment Man

But they had to come from somewhere. There is an answer. You just throw your hands up.


You need the atoms that form Hydrogen and Oxygen first. Where did the design of the atom come from to form raindrops. How does hydrogen and oxygen KNOW to be water?

The atoms of the crystals were designed and built by someone or something. You cannot get something from nothing and there had to be be a God that always has been to break out of the chicken - egg circularity.

Gaia

It is for you, and many who think like you, but it does not make it Reality. It is only an attempt to cope with things and events you fail to comprehend.


Everything that happens is Reality.


Questioning, erxamining occurences is a sign of Intelligence. For example: It took much longer than seven Days, to "create" the Earth. Yet you (and many) believe this to be the truth/reality. And I (and many) do not.

The Earth is much older than two thousand years, and while believing thusly, you limit your understanding of the awesome vasteness of our Universe.

But it's okay to believe whatever you must, in order to deal with your fear of dying.

Whatever gets you through the night!

Rock On!

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Environment Man

I can comprehend anything. There is nothing 'beyond' my comprehend.

WEll not if a day is as 2 billion years. Time is irrelevant to God. 2 seconds and 2 billion years would be same to him. Right now.

AGain, you limit God's manipulations to human perception. Whether it is 14 billion years or 6,000 years or 6 seconds. He could do what he did in ANY of those time frames.

Nobody WANTS to die. But at least I know that God has made arrangements for me to live again. And possible forever.

LeisureChrist

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Environment Man

God is Enviroment Man's God. This creep worships Satan.

LeisureChrist

You left out any context as to who "this creep" might be. Indeed, the only antecedents available in the post are Environment Man and God. So... Environment Man or God? Which of you two creeps worships Satan?

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mentor

God cannot take a chance?

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