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Old 04-19-2008, 05:05 AM   #21 (permalink)
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Mankind. Adam and Eve through their choice to oppose God.


It is in the Bible and it is not hard to find.


Can't happen. The Earth was created as God's jewel in all of existence and it will remain so.
Can't handle Reality, huh? Oh well...
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Old 04-19-2008, 06:06 AM   #22 (permalink)
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laws of physics would require a law establisher.
We do not currently know where the laws of physics came from because that would require us looking outside our universe. No way of doing so was devised... yet.

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formed would require a former.
Not really. If a bunch of raindrops fall together nearby, they will coalesce into bigger ones. This does not require creator. They so to reduce surface tension and minimize their energy state. Everything in the universe seeks to minimize its energy, so just like bigger raindrops, atoms are at lower state then the sum of their parts...

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You cannot get around intelligent design. There is no way an atom could form with design and build specs. Not to mention an infinite number of them. How did they 'know' to do that. And then to self organize? Please.
How do crystals form naturally without any creator? See above, it is the best available configuration for them at the moment. Chemical and nuclear reactions do not require supernatural explanation... They occur naturally and can (more or less) easily be replicated in the lab.
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Old 04-19-2008, 03:43 PM   #23 (permalink)
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Can't handle Reality, huh? Oh well...
Intelligent Design and Creationism are reality. Chance as a god is unreality. It is denial of design and build.
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Old 04-19-2008, 03:47 PM   #24 (permalink)
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We do not currently know where the laws of physics came from because that would require us looking outside our universe. No way of doing so was devised... yet.
But they had to come from somewhere. There is an answer. You just throw your hands up.


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Not really. If a bunch of raindrops fall together nearby, they will coalesce into bigger ones. This does not require creator. They so to reduce surface tension and minimize their energy state. Everything in the universe seeks to minimize its energy, so just like bigger raindrops, atoms are at lower state then the sum of their parts...
You need the atoms that form Hydrogen and Oxygen first. Where did the design of the atom come from to form raindrops. How does hydrogen and oxygen KNOW to be water?

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How do crystals form naturally without any creator? See above, it is the best available configuration for them at the moment. Chemical and nuclear reactions do not require supernatural explanation... They occur naturally and can (more or less) easily be replicated in the lab.
The atoms of the crystals were designed and built by someone or something. You cannot get something from nothing and there had to be be a God that always has been to break out of the chicken - egg circularity.
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Old 04-20-2008, 04:56 AM   #25 (permalink)
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Intelligent Design and Creationism are reality.
It is for you, and many who think like you, but it does not make it Reality. It is only an attempt to cope with things and events you fail to comprehend.


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Chance as a god is unreality.
Everything that happens is Reality.


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It is denial of design and build.
Questioning, erxamining occurences is a sign of Intelligence. For example: It took much longer than seven Days, to "create" the Earth. Yet you (and many) believe this to be the truth/reality. And I (and many) do not.

The Earth is much older than two thousand years, and while believing thusly, you limit your understanding of the awesome vasteness of our Universe.

But it's okay to believe whatever you must, in order to deal with your fear of dying.

Whatever gets you through the night!

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Old 04-20-2008, 07:19 AM   #26 (permalink)
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It is for you, and many who think like you, but it does not make it Reality. It is only an attempt to cope with things and events you fail to comprehend.
I can comprehend anything. There is nothing 'beyond' my comprehend.

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Questioning, erxamining occurences is a sign of Intelligence. For example: It took much longer than seven Days, to "create" the Earth. Yet you (and many) believe this to be the truth/reality. And I (and many) do not.
WEll not if a day is as 2 billion years. Time is irrelevant to God. 2 seconds and 2 billion years would be same to him. Right now.

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The Earth is much older than two thousand years, and while believing thusly, you limit your understanding of the awesome vasteness of our Universe.
AGain, you limit God's manipulations to human perception. Whether it is 14 billion years or 6,000 years or 6 seconds. He could do what he did in ANY of those time frames.

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But it's okay to believe whatever you must, in order to deal with your fear of dying.
Nobody WANTS to die. But at least I know that God has made arrangements for me to live again. And possible forever.
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Old 04-20-2008, 09:21 AM   #27 (permalink)
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God is Enviroment Man's God. This creep worships Satan.
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God is Enviroment Man's God. This creep worships Satan.
You left out any context as to who "this creep" might be. Indeed, the only antecedents available in the post are Environment Man and God. So... Environment Man or God? Which of you two creeps worships Satan?
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Intelligent Design and Creationism are reality. Chance as a god is unreality. It is denial of design and build.
God cannot take a chance?
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