BillCosby

Designer kids anyone??

I believe & I am afraid all this & more is in store for our future........

Genes are now part of the patent process & we are essentially made up of products now owned by someone else.........

There are perhaps many up sides and many many more obvious down sides.. Going forward into the unknown I am afraid those down sides will multiply exponentially to create many problems we have not even begun to consider.....

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The_Heretic

Chances are any serious genetic engineering of people will involve various methods of inserting genes into people who are already alive, rather than waiting for the un-engineered people to die off. However, here are some unquestionably good aspects of genetic engineering of people.

1: Implanting genes to code for vitamin A and vitamin C production as well as the remaining amino acids which the human body doesn't today produce. This would do away numerous ailments related to malnutrition.

2: A number of genes within the human population, which might've once been survival benefits, are now the source of medical conditions that are in many cases on the rise. Genes causing or contributing to obesity, diabetes, alzheimers, thousands of cancers and more obscure less known ailments.

3: The immune system. When a person is concieved they start with the genes that program immune cells which work against many diseases but those genes get clipped out before the immune system is up and running. imagine all those genes offering protection from the start. What's more, an evolutionary overhaul of the immune system so that it can take on diseases it hasn't encountered and protect the person from the first exposure.

Animals like sharks are unaffected by any disease and also don't get cancers naturally. This is partly due to how old the zoological subphylem Condritchys is, but we can leapfrog that process with genetic engineering rather than waiting a few hundred million years. And we can do even better once we know the way our genome operates in full.

4: Spaceflight and exposure to freefall or zero gee conditions causes the muscles begin to deteriorate and calcium is removed from the body. But with a little tweak here and there the body will know to maintain a certain physical condition regardless of gravity and, possibly, enhance the body when higher G-force conditions occur with increased frequency; launches or high G maneuvers in aircraft and spacecraft.

5: There's also the unanticipated events we could plan for. Suppose the human genome were augmented for life in environments previously too far above or below our reach. going to the ocean depths without having problems due to high pressure nor any when returning to the surface. Being able to ascend beyond the vertical limit of oxygen intake without need of conditioning, training or a supply of oxygen. Both of these possibilities allows us to live in places little else can survive in, so that we're not taxing the environments as greatly there.

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BillCosby

???? Was that directed @ me????

Sure there are some good aspects as you pointed out. & they will be available. @ a price......



Designer kids & flawless babies sounds good & what parent will not want that......... & will spend whatever it takes to get it????

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Malkavian

It'll get cheap very fast. Genetic sequencers are dropping in price dramatically, and to transfer, you just take a retrovirus (like HIV, but with bad bits removed, of course ) insert the desired gene into it. Then infect yourself, and as the virus spreads through your body, it will copy itself into your DNA. Bingo! Currently, it's easier said than done, but i'm sure the tech will come around quicker than most people realize...

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BillCosby

SOunds like your already on board & ridin high on the geneO train to paradise........

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jowey

It will happen, in order to interact with new environments. The problem is that nut cases seem to be in power - we cant trust them to use these toys correctly.

Imagine an immortal Bush, that declares himself emperor....

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The_Heretic

Possibly, but before long term exploration of other worlds you won't see much.

That's true of any great discovery going all the way back to fire.

First, our social and governmental institutions don't allow for holding office indefinitely. I've many times explained this in the 2009 marshal law crapspiracies.

There's always going to be a speed bump to immortality. Suppose, that after upping human to two hundred year lifespans another innate trait causes death that hadn't been discovered because no one lived long enough to encounter it. Then, there may be more at 582 years, and another at a thousand, then still more at 1101, 1407 and 2343 years. Almost all the geriatric conditions we've uncovered in the 20th and 21st centuries were always with us, but rare to nonexistent because of the shorter human life expectancies. Plus new genetic enhancements may cause their own collection of medical problems after centuries or millennia later into that individual's life.

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jowey

This premise depends on the institutions functioning. I do doubt that Bush could create a scenario that would cause a meltdown that would give him the excuse to claim emergency powers. It is evident that he does have a following that would support a bid for power, note the attacks against Scott. This would be to protect us from the "liberals" and their foolish notions.

Our infrastructure is damaged:

• Manufacturing.
• Energy production.
• Civil Liberties.
• Fear and profit is used as a tool to drive a wedge into those government and social institutions that allegedly protect us from such an act.

You can say that it will probably not occur but you cannot say that it cannot occur.

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BillCosby

Good points.......... There are obviously some on the supreme court that would/could find some rational to justify about anything......

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jowey

Va. judge fired after deciding case with coin flip
Media Stories About Judge Garson
Alberto Gonzales

These are the ones that were caught. The strategy that they were using is commonly used - by criminals. First thing that one who actively committed a crime does is deny, deny and deny. One who did not commit any crime does not deny, they mistakenly believe in "presumption of innocence". Of course when the innocent attempt to deny they are not believed, if they make headway in any channel they are discredited. To believe that the institutions actually offer a protection is naive. The institutions are used to silence and discredit the voices - they are disgruntled citizens ranting away, lets arrest them so that they will not harm anyone.

WAR IS A RACKET by Two-Time Congressional Medal of Honor Recipient Major General Smedley D. Butler - USMC Retired

Again these people who seek to protect this country from the "liberals" are using technological tools to control the population. With genetics providing an opportunity to extend ones life, those that can afford it will. You can bet that the Christian Republicans will be the first in line to get these treatments too.

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