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    Time To Wake Up - Obama/Hillary Can't win, What were you thinking?

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    OK, below is a great blog from some dude..I agree with it and use it to help point out that Obama can't win...you KNOW we still have to many racist assholes in this country....but let's look at Chillary too, who is the easiest to demonize. I never have liked her...respect her but she ain't it.

    The fucking repulsivans must be salivating at this point thinking they have a slam dunk with the possibility of running against two people who are doomed from the nomination on...Obama will be fresh meat and Chillary will be stale meat...but non-the-less...either will be dead meat.


    Of course I have a goddamned agenda: Take our democracy back!

    VOTE EDWARDS..No shit sherlock.

    The Primate Diaries: Time to Wake Up

    "I'm going to lay it out plain. We live in a racist and materialistic society that none of us can any longer deny. There were fifty white supremacists protesting Martin Luther King Jr. Day in Jena, LA, the source of the most significant civil rights issue of this generation. Where were those countering the Neo-nazis and southern bigots? Where were the people of good conscience who refuse to allow ignorance to have the sole voice on issues that affect our countrymen?

    Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere.

    While I often focus on issues emphasizing science, I am not unaware of the social hypocrisy occurring all around me. The assault on science by the religious right is mirrored by social conservatives who assault the respect of multiple cultures. The ultimate concern of these groups is profound ignorance, ignorance of science and ignorance of those aspects they would condemn in others. While they truly believe that they are enlightening all those they tell it to, I would argue they need to be more humble. Thrusting your beliefs on others is a violation of everything your doctrine holds dear. It's also extremely annoying and rude.

    From a biological perspective, the oppressed will either rise up or go extinct. Conservatives act as though they prefer the extinction of those groups they oppose. It's fitting then that many have joined with Neo-nazis. For the rest of us, we need to seek solidarity with those groups who have been marginalized or oppressed. Through numbers there is strength. If you've never interacted with these groups before, you need to start. If you're already part of these groups, now is the time to make your group known.

    Learn about the Jena 6.
    Learn about Malcolm X.
    Learn about Emma Goldman.
    Learn about F.I.S.T.
    Learn about the legislation against reproductive rights.
    Learn about Che Guevara.
    Learn about Cesar Chavez.
    Learn about A.N.S.W.E.R.
    Learn about Noam Chomsky.
    Learn about Howard Zinn.
    Learn about Amnesty International.
    Learn about Arundhati Roy.
    Learn about Naomi Klein.

    Please add more links in the comments. I personally am sick of a single group maintaining their ideology and asserting that it's more consistent than all others. If so, prove it or shut up once and for all. But I don't agree with your arguments. I and we can address some here."

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    People are fucking idiots. Don't they know it's all one species? The races are merely a product of evolving in slightly different environments.

    If anything, you could make the argument blacks are the most usefully evolved. If anthropologists are correct, human life started in Africa. This means, while other people were wandering around, settling in different environments, the 'soon-to-be-blacks' were getting a head-start on evolution.

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    If Obama wins the primary I actually think he'll win the general election easily and in fact stands a better chance than Edwards would... FAR better than Hillary.
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    Quote Originally Posted by okpfloyd View Post
    ...you KNOW we still have to many racist assholes in this country....but let's look at Chillary too, who is the easiest to demonize. I never have liked her...respect her but she ain't it.

    The fucking repulsivans must be salivating at this point thinking they have a slam dunk with the possibility of running against two people who are doomed from the nomination on...Obama will be fresh meat and Chillary will be stale meat...but non-the-less...either will be dead meat.


    Of course I have a goddamned agenda: Take our democracy back!

    VOTE EDWARDS..No shit sherlock.
    Have been saying the same, only because it is SO FUCKING OBVIOUS and also because Good Old Boy after Good Old Boy...not Kreepy Racists with hoods but Regular Racists like many of our relatives...tells me "ain't no black man gonna be president."

    These are very often the people who bear arms, incidentally.

    But the Obama Obsessives...if, say, you point out that Robert Kennedy, Martin Luther King and Malcom X were all assassinated...say we are dwelling on the negative.

    Which is the kind of thing that makes moderate Republicans who have every reason to desert their party post-Bush remember that Democrats DO tend to have that pie-in-the-sky impracticality thing going on.

    Though your chief concern is getting Republicans out of the White House and our country into the realm of reason, you are likely to be rewarded for your efforts with the charge of being racist yourself.

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    I am ASTONISHED that you would say this...not the better than Hillary thing, YOU would be better than Hillary...but that Barack Hussein Obama will not only beat the white male Republican, but beat him "easily."

    The Republicans control the voting machinery, you know this.

    You therefore know that a Landslide is required to circumvent vote-count tampering.

    Knowing what you know about the country that has only EVER had a white man at the helm, you feel that NOW is the time for notoriously racist America to not only jump that hurdle, but jump it with a black man that the Republicans are already planning to vilify as the point guard of a slow, long-term plot for the Muslim takeover of the West?

    I will suggest that your longtime contempt for the "D.I.N.O." party might have you subconsciously promoting "snatch defeat from the jaws of victory" folly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cheapseats View Post
    I am ASTONISHED that you would say this...not the better than Hillary thing, YOU would be better than Hillary...but that Barack Hussein Obama will not only beat the white male Republican, but beat him "easily."
    More easily than Edwards or Hillary. Biden would've completely whooped the right wing's ass, but the media, his own party's bosses and fuckin' Iowa stabbed him in the back and bullied him from the race.

    Stupid shit!

    The Republicans control the voting machinery, you know this.
    Ahh, and it was D.I.N.O.'s who barred third party and independents from the ballot, even breaking the law in some cases in order to cheat us of our electoral choices.

    The 2000 race was won in a courtroom and the 2004 election was not stolen. Your party needs to take some fucking responsibility for its failures. I'm buying this "stolen" election bullshit, because it's just a D.I.N.O. scare tactic.

    When People For The American Way called me to ask about voter fraud or vote tampering I brought up the tactic of barring independents and third parties from the ballot. That's when they got snooty and made clear they only care about those who vote for D.I.N.O.'s. Needless to say first donation to those fucks was my last. I'm done waiting for D.I.N.O.'s to live upto the name Democrat.

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    Originally Posted by cheapseats
    I am ASTONISHED that you would say this...not the better than Hillary thing, YOU would be better than Hillary...but that Barack Hussein Obama will not only beat the white male Republican, but beat him "easily."

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    More easily than Edwards or Hillary.
    I couldn't disagree more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonesy View Post
    People are fucking idiots.
    Lots of 'em, no question.

    And lots of THEM are racist.

    And lots of THEM don't think of themselves as racist. They aren't driving down the street taking pot shots at every dark-skinned or slant-eyed person they see...they don't have to...they have a quiet core "knowledge" that they are better than the others. AS THEY WERE RAISED TO THINK, WITHOUT THINKING IT.

    And THOSE? Many of them who are men feel the exact same way about women.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Heretic View Post
    Biden would've completely whooped the right wing's ass, but the media, his own party's bosses and fuckin' Iowa stabbed him in the back and bullied him from the race.

    Stupid shit!
    Agreed. Especially stupid to throw his own support.

    Only Chris Dodd was above the fray of Obama's Backroom Dealing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cheapseats View Post
    Agreed. Especially stupid to throw his own support.

    Only Chris Dodd was above the fray of Obama's Backroom Dealing.
    Actually Biden was as well, and it was Hillary's backroom dealing that cleared off the best candidates.
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