StillNoScript

Maybe you're not following the thread, but the reason I'm asking why she'd refer to Vick as a bitch is because I find it ironic that at the same time, she's an animal activist. Isn't a "bitch" an accurate description of a female canine? Considering she works with animals, and has pretty much appointed herself the chief of police both here and at Bill Maher regarding animal abuse, I find it a bit disturbing that she seems to condone a word used to describe female dogs also being used to describe someone on the receiving end of a prison rape. You'd think she'd hold the word bitch in a little bit higher of a regard, considering how much she loves dogs. Evidently not.

Refuge51

I don't call dogs bitches .. I reserve that for female humans I dislike. And for all we know, Vick may have his own 'bitch' in prison instead of the other way around. He's the one who oversaw the task of female dogs being forcibly raped among other inhumane atrocities.
Maybe he would like to continue that 'cultural thrill'.


Where the fuck do you draw the line SNS? Seriously, if Vick had murdered a woman I believe you'd be defending him just as fiercely as you are now. The funny thing is you don't see yourself defending him, but you are. Hey on second though maybe you could become a defense attorney, you'd be damn good at it.

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StillNoScript

Maybe you should become a dog. You seem to be having trouble with human beings. It's evident, you don't like them, especially athletic men. Isn't that the reason you started like 20 Vick threads in the sports folder at BM? And, are undoubtedly going to pull the same shit here? You probably have a few hundred posts altogether in both the sports folder here and the sports folder at BM, and every single post is about VICK, VICK, VICK. That's inappropriate. You should be discussing Vick in the other threads. This isn't about sports anymore, it's about animal abuse. It never really was about sports, but sure, I can see the logic behind putting one Vick thread in the sports folder, he is an athlete. But to continuously discuss it in the sports folder is a blatant attempt on your part to irritate sports fans as some sort of punishment, like it was all of our faults that Vick did this. Isn't that what this is really about? Again, why can't you just leave this Vick shit in the other current events, or perhaps crime related threads? I'll tell you why. Because you can't hijack the attention of sports fans there. So that's why you scurry through this place like the busy body you are. You think you're keeping the Vick incident fresh in our minds. You're not. What you're keeping fresh in our minds is how miserable you are and how hung up you are on the fact that at the end of the day, Americans don't view crimes against dogs even as bad as they view drugs. And Americans LOOOOOVE football, which is why Vick will be playing again in 3 years. I guaran fucking tee you with his style of play, Al Davis probably already has a contract drafted out for him. That's why you're here. You're not here to inform. You're here to agitate. You've got an ax to grind, and nothing is going to stop you. But I'll sure as hell point it out, even if others here are either too blind to see it, or know it but are too intimidated by you to confront you on it themselves. Neither is the case with me.

cronincal

i don't think he'll ever sniff the nfl again, sns. af2, maybe.

Vick asked for leniency
Quarterback wrote letter to judge before sentencing
Posted: Thursday December 13, 2007 5:35PM;
Updated: Thursday December 13, 2007 7:17PM

RICHMOND, Va. (AP) -- Michael Vick declared "I am not the bad person or beast I've been made out to be" and asked for leniency in a letter to the federal judge who sentenced him to 23 months in prison for a dogfighting conspiracy.

Vick made his handwritten plea from jail as he awaited Monday's sentencing by Judge Henry E. Hudson. His five-page letter and several others from Vick supporters, including baseball great Hank Aaron and former heavyweight boxing champion George Foreman, were released by the U.S. District Court in Richmond on Thursday.

"I take full responsibility for my actions and am ashamed that my actions hurt animals and allowed animals to be hurt and killed," Vick wrote. "... Your Honor, I just ask for a second chance."

The suspended Atlanta Falcons quarterback's appeal wasn't enough to overcome Hudson's finding that Vick lied at various times about his hands-on role in helping kill pit bulls and about his marijuana use, which was detected by a drug screening. Hudson cited those lapses in giving Vick a longer sentence than two fellow defendants, who previously were sentenced to 18 months and 21 months.

"Throughout this entire case, I've just tried to be honest," Vick wrote. "Sometimes I didn't know how to be and was scared, but eventually I put everything out on the table and left no stones unturned."

Vick said he's an animal lover but that he grew up in a culture where dogfighting went unpunished while people were arrested for guns or drugs. His mother, Brenda Boddie, also alluded to Vick's upbringing in a rough area of Newport News in her letter to the judge.

"Michael could have easily followed the wrong crowd but he chose to make something out of himself and he got his family out of the projects," she wrote. "Michael has had a lot on his shoulders since he was around 14 yrs old, working hard to get where he wanted to be."

Vick said he now knows his actions were wrong.

"Your Honor, I am not the bad person or the beast I've been made out to be. I have been talked about and ridiculed on a day to day basis by people who really dont know Michael Vick the human being," Vick wrote.

He described himself as a "humble, soft spoken and caring" father of three and lamented the effect his crime has had on his older children, ages 5 and 2.

"This has been painful because my son watches the news and can understand whats going on with his father," he wrote, adding that his daughter asked him on a regular basis when he would be home to play games with her, "but I have no answer."

He also said his actions have left his own once-enviable life in tatters.
"Honestly, I wish I had never been involved in dogfighting," he wrote. "As a result I've lost everything -- my good name, job, endorsements, and now my freedom."

Vick blamed his marijuana use on his father, Michael Boddie, who talked to The Atlanta Journal-Constitution about his famous son's dogfighting activities in August. Boddie told the newspaper: "I wish people would stop sugarcoating it. This is Mike's thing."

Vick wrote: "I was suffering from a deep state of depression, and after my father attacked me in the media, I was heartbroken. ... That's no excuse for using marijuana, but I didn't know how to cope with all the difficulties I was facing because it was all new to me."

He alluded to the nearly $1 million the court ordered him to set aside for the care and placement of dozens of pit bulls that were seized from his property in southeastern Virginia, saying he had no objection to paying because he believes the dogs "should live a good life."

Vick noted that he had never before been convicted of a crime, and he listed some of his charitable contributions and vowed to use his money only for good works in the future.

Aaron, the former home run king who is now an executive with the Atlanta Braves, lauded Vick's community service.

"From the moment Michael moved to Atlanta, he appeared to deal with his success very well," Aaron wrote. "From what I understand, he took it upon himself to support the area's underprivileged kids, bring them to games, visit them in the hospital, and give money to the organizations that help them. Michael made a favorable impression on me from the moment I met him."

Vick's lead attorney, Billy Martin, said in a statement: "Mr. Vick is much more than the caricature some in the media have chosen to portray."

He listed other charitable works by Vick and said the former Virginia Tech star "deserves to be judged on the totality of his actions, not just the latest headlines."

Vick's troubles still are not over. He and his three co-defendants -- Purnell Peace, Quanis Phillips and Tony Taylor -- face state animal cruelty charges in Surry County. Vick's trial is set for April 2.

Copyright 2007 Associated Press

cronincal

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Michael Vick

Stop saying what he did is a cultural thing, just one of those things black folks are known for, like jazz. He's not one of the Scottsboro boys, he electrocuted dogs.

Teri B.

WTF? Are you seriously going that route? Seems to me you're willing to make up excuses for the likes of Vick, Bonds, and just about any other low-life asshole who not only corrupts the sports you love, but has no ethics, sportsmanship, or even in Vick's case, human qualities.

It is precisely BECAUSE I love the game of football that I don't want future athletes to be infected by sick and cheating vermine like Vick, Bonds, Belichick or their ilk. What is it again that you're cheering for and supporting?